Jeremy Puglisi (Twitter: @thervatlas, IG: @thervatlas)  is a traveler and writer. He co-authored See You at the Campground, Where Should We Camp Next, and RV Vacations with his wife Stephanie. They also cohost The RV Atlas Podcast.  
In this conversation, Jeremy Puglisi and Brett McKay share some helpful advice about visiting and camping in national parks. 
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Host: Brett McKay (@artofmanliness)  
Jeremy Puglisi and his wife have camped in half of the 63 national parks 
His favorite national park in Olympic National Park in Washington state 
His wife’s favorite is Glacier National Park 
They do a big trip at the end of August each year 
Most of the country is back to school at the end of August, so it is a great time to visit parks 
There are 63 national parks, but there are 424 national park sites 
The are many different designations of “sites”: seashores, lakeshores, recreation areas, memorials, parkways, and more
Many of the national park sites have amazing camping experiences 
While the West has most of the parks, the East has a lot of the national park sites  
Jeremy believes that interest in visiting national parks increased during the pandemic, and everyone planned trips to one of the five most well-known parks 
A flood of people who were new to camping and road-tripping all of a sudden tried to descend on the same places at the same time 
The most famous parks are crowded during the most popular times, but there are other options to consider 
The most crowded time of the year is when every kid in the country is out of school; it is especially busy in the first few weeks of summer vacation
He recommends visiting the better-known parks during the shoulder months (March-April or September) to avoid the crowds 
When booking permits, use the Recreation.gov mobile app instead of the browser because Brett says a few extra licenses are reserved for app users 
Even if a park appears to be packed, you may have the trails to yourself if everyone else is there for a specific attraction 
Months in advance, check if the park you plan to visit has a reservation system 
There are only five parks that require a reservation to get into the park; however, most all require a reservation for camping
Seeing specific attractions within a park may require a reservation, so be sure to check NPS.gov before going  
Be sure to go to NPS.gov and Recreation.gov together to get all the information
It is very difficult to get a camping reservation at Yosemite
  • There are 20 pages of instructions on Yosemite’s website about camping reservations 
Thousands of campsites disappear in seconds when they become available on the national parks’ website 
Parks like Yosemite and Zion are experimenting with a lottery system for people to be selected to gain early access to the reservation system  
People will get their entire family on computers to sit there are refresh the website hoping that one of them is lucky enough to get access to a reservation 
On summer weekends, most camping sites inside the park will be booked, regardless of the national park 
It is inexpensive to camp inside the parks, costing anywhere between $10-$30 per night 
It is easier to get to campgrounds outside the park than inside the park 
Campgrounds outside the park are 2-4x more expensive than campgrounds inside the park 
Generally, the outside campgrounds are not as beautiful as the ones inside the park 
Check out KOA Campgrounds to book a campground outside a national park 
Not every park has campgrounds located immediately outside the park; it depends on whether or not the park has gateway towns 
Another option is to camp in a state park or a national forest that is near the national park 
Boondocking or “dispersed camping” is another option 
Be sure to call the field office before doing dispersed camping 
“The single most important thing that we tell everybody is to get up early.” – Jeremy Puglisi 
  • Parking lots tend to fill up by 10:00 AM 
  • If you are going to a popular trail-head, try to get there by 7:00 AM 
Take it slow and do not feel like you have to cram in everything 
Create a balance between what Mom and Dad want and what the kids want 
Most parks have a Junior Ranger program where kids can become Junior Rangers 
Fourth graders are granted free entry into national parks via the Every Kid Outdoors program
A national parks trip can be a very affordable family vacation 
It is a challenge to visit Yosemite in the summer months 
Yosemite is the sixth most visited national park 
More people visit Yosemite than Yellowstone, and Yellowstone is 3x the size 
It is common for most people visiting a given park to want to see one specific part of the park 
Most people visiting Yosemite want to see the valley 
The camping recommendations in Jeremy’s book are 45-60 minutes outside the park 
Williams, the gateway town to the Grand Canyon, is over an hour away
The reservation system for the Grand Canyon is simpler than Yosemite; reservations can be made six months in advance 
While there are campgrounds open all year, you may experience bad weather if you go in the offseason 
A few nights at the Grand Canyon will be enough for most unless you want to do some serious hiking 
Great Smoky Mountains is the most visited national park 
It had 14 million visitors in 2022, which is about twice the number of visitors that other national parks get 
Jeremy says the Great Smoky Mountains are more accessible and less stressful than other parks on the list 
There are several great NPS campgrounds in and around the park, which can be entered from either North Carolina or Tennessee 
It has several gateway towns around it   
When planning to go to Yellowstone, you must decide the location of your basecamp because you can enter the park from so many different places 
Yellowstone is a driving park more than it is a hiking park; it is a touring park 
A big part of the experience will be driving in your car from place to place 
Do not be shocked that you will be doing a lot of driving 
The end of August is a good time to visit Yellowstone 
If it’s your first time and you only have a few days, Jeremy recommends doing the lower loop of the park 
If you have more time, head into the upper loop and do things like the Grand Canyon of the Yellowstone and Lamar Valley   
Go to Lamar Valley if you are going to Yellowstone for wildlife 
Hayden Valley was a “bust” for Jeremy and many others he’s spoken with 
Look at Madison Campground if it is your first trip to Yellowstone
Both Jeremy and Brett liked Grand Teton more than Yellowstone 
Grand Teton National Park is about a 10 minute drive from the bottom of Yellowstone 
Grand Teton is more of a hiking park than Yellowstone, and it is great for camping 
Camping at Grand Teton is easy to figure out 
Jeremy does not say that Yellowstone is overrated but says that it did not live up to the hype
Olympic National Park in Washington State is underrated, according to Jeremy Puglisi 
Other underrated parks: Mt. Rushmore, Badlands Park in South Dakota, and Theodore Roosevelt national park in North Dakota,  
You feel like you are on another planet when you’re at Badlands national park 
Nationally overlooked parks in the East:
  • Acadia in Maine
  • Cape Cod national seashore in Massachusetts
  • Shenandoah in Virginia
  • New River Gorge in West Virginia 
  • Cape Hatteras national seashore in North Carolina 
Some of the best state parks that are almost as good as the national parks but without the crowds: 
  • Custer State Park in South Dakota 
  • Adirondack Park in New York State 
  • Assateague State Park in Maryland (Jeremy’s personal favorite)
  • Snow Canyon State Park in Utah
  • Jack London State Park in California  
He saw better wildlife at Custer State Park than at Yellowstone
You can camp at Custer and then go right to Mt. Rushmore 
South Dakota takes a lot of pride in its state parks, and Custer is its crown jewel 
You can camp on the beach at Assateague State Park